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Adisa posted this 10 July 2018


Does anyone know, why are these warnings occurring:

Element shape checking is currently inactive.  Issue SHPP, ON or SHPP, WARN to reactivate, if desired.

Material number 17 (used by element 147869 ) should normally have at least one MP or one TB type command associated with it.  Output of  energy by material may not be available.

Best regards.


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peteroznewman posted this 10 July 2018

 Hi Adisa,

Element shape checking doesn't need to be done by the solver because ANSYS Meshing created the mesh and did the shape checking then set it to inactive when it sent the mesh to the solver.

Someone else can comment on the MP TB warning.

Best regards.


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sk_cheah posted this 10 July 2018

https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=367279 by Rick Fischer gave a good response. 

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Adisa posted this 10 July 2018

Can anyone know to describe  the next table:

Because for the first pair, the status of the contact is inactive but the target is closed, I am so confused.

peteroznewman posted this 10 July 2018

Contacts in Mechanical have a Behavior setting.

In Mechanical you pick one face to be the Contact side and another face to be the Target side of the pair that make up one contact definition.

Behavior can be Symmetric, Asymmetric or Auto Asymmetric.

Asymmetric gives you one set of elements: the Contact elements on the surface you picked for the Contact side, and Target elements on the surface you picked for the Target side. 

Symmetric creates a second set of elements, but with the Contact and Target sides switched and both sets of elements are checked by the solver as it computes the contact. This adds a little to the model size and takes a little longer to solve, but has a better chance of avoiding excessive penetration.

Auto Asymmetric was used in your example where the Solver is given a Symmetric pair of contacts and picks one of them to use, and makes the other Inactive.


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Adisa posted this 11 July 2018

Peter thank you so much.

I have one more question.

I am trying to do analysis with the plastic deformation. The solver is converged but I am encountering with two messages, can anyone see those the messages and give me tips about it.

The analysis is attached, ANSYS R19.0.



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peteroznewman posted this 11 July 2018

Hello Adisa,

It looks like you wanted to do a 2D analysis. You should do that.

First, set the Geometry properties to 2D instead of 3D

Then in DesignModeler, create surfaces from sketches instead of Extrude a solid.

Open Mechanical and set the geometry to Plane Strain.

What is in your 3D model is not Plane Strain because you only held one face of each body to have z=0. If you had picked the front and the back faces of each body to have z=0, then it would have been Plane Strain.  What you have is more like Plane Stress, but two bodies that thin would buckle out of plane under these conditions.

So after not answering your questions, let me now answer them.

The first message is just a warning. Large deformation effects may have invalidated ... but in this case, they did not invalidate anything. Everything you wanted is still valid. You can ignore this warning.

The second message is seen when there may be rigid body motion, or a mechanism type of situation. There is no Static Equilibrium in those cases, so rather than throw an error and say no solution, ANSYS adds some weak spring to prevent a "divide by zero" error, and lets the solution continue. Usually contact is established and strong contact forces come into play. The contact forces are much larger than the weak springs, so the weak springs become negligible in the final solution, but they were needed to get the solution past the "divide by zero" problem at the beginning. You can check the reaction forces in the weak springs to verify that they are not significant. You can also make sure there is a tiny bit in penetration in the contact at the beginning, then weak springs will not be needed.

The ANSYS 19.0 2D Plane Strain model is attached.

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Adisa posted this 12 July 2018

Peter, thank you so much.

Yes, You are right, the reaction force in the weak spring is negligible in the final solution.

One more, thank Peter.

Best regards.